The Living Room Theory (or... How to deal with Assholes)

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To be honest, I've never given this much thought - beyond wishing Vox would let me edit (my own) comments when I've made a glaring typo. This is because I'm one of the majority who have few, if any, readers outside my 'hood and indeed most posts are neighbourhood only.

I've occasionally received spam and I've had to delete part of a comment thread which too closely identified a fellow blogger as a real-life person, but aside from that the comments I attract are relevant, humourous and courteous.

I'm not quite sure how I'd react if someone started leaving random, weird, irrelevant or bigoted comments on the blog and the lazy coward in me doesn't particularly want to find out - I would totally stick up for what I believe in, but I'm not sure whether I'd engange in a random exchange with someone too blinkered to respond intelligently to another's point of view.

As for my blog being like my living room - there are far more drunks and good-time gals (and the occasional guy) on there than usually frequent my living room ... more's the pity.

Assuming for some twist of fate though your blog became the talk of Jay Leno and Larry King tomorrow and you had several hundred comments daily...assuming you care enough to read/reply to most of them and have/want to devote the time to this....how would you go about it? That was kind of the jist of it.
Ah. In that case, I'd employ you.
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Interesting concept, and well worth the read.
I'm good but expensive due to the fact that legal fees are for the employers' account....
Danke Meneer (spelling optional...)

Your attempt at the Afrikaans language was not bad......

My Afrikaans is limited to understanding the swearing mostly, so I only understand 95% of it :) :)
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Great post, I certainly feel that I'm a 'tryrant type' when blocking people on my blog but that's my prerogative.
I welcome rational debate but with the likes of Ken stalking the neighbourhood, sometimes it's better to let the Guardian Angels take a truncheon to his knees in the name of social betterment for all who live in the community.
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Good post.

Does England have rednecks? I always thought they were just a special part of my own lovely country.

The whole of the UK is actually populated by the original breeders of your watered down versions of true rednecks.

Perhaps you should refer to an earlier post of mine on the natives of this island... an insular, xenophobic, drunken people...

hmm...see the thing is that ken is not actually a troll. He has only a tenous grasp of logic or grammar or spelling or...well you get the idea... but unlike a true troll ken is more of an austolapithecus telepored to the modern world. If you can master the odd grunts and fur scratchings some communication can actually take place. And if all you can do is instead attack him with what for him are magic tools (technolgy beyond his grasp, like rational discourse etc etc) then you become actually inferior to him in my mind.

I haven't followed yours and ken's little banter across the interwebs so I don't know how passionately you lust after each other secretly, but I am assuming a little bit of anymosity between the two of you may exist.

I'd say there was a little animosity, but I disagree with you about Ken's Troll status. He follows you around the Voxsphere like a sick puppy, even visiting your neighbours to leave comments about you, much like Johnnysan did.
ummm...I'm unaware of it if he does as are most of my hood since none of them have specifically reported anything to me of the sort. And certainly he's nothing like Johnnysan.
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Well said, and said in an especially fiery tone (dragons in the living room are a good thing.....). I'm torn on this one. Are we really creating a metamorphisis, or are we just giving "ken" free publicity......I am happy to converse with extreme right wingers but in my heart I don't think people actually ever change. 'Round and "round.

If I were Goddess of Vox I would have everyone block Ken until he learned to use his own blog and then discuss this mess in his frito-lay strewn lounge area.

Hahahah I like the image you have of his lounge.

I don't care about "free publicity". I care about content. Relevance. Reasoning skills. You may have gathered that I am not keen on popularity contests. To paraphrase a VERY cool guy, (Lysander Spooner) if one man or a million men said 2+2=5 it would no more make it true than if ten million agreed with it.

Ken may be as irritating as a tick, but he ain't no troll in the true sense of the word as I understand it. And trying to pass him off as such is a lie.

By all means feel free to block him and be done with him. I did for a while. He's no longer blocked by me but he has learnt to contain his outbursts considerably on my blog. And every time he steps out of line I let him know.

Back to the lounge (or street or whatever) you behave like a swine, I will bitch-slap you in my lounge until you leave or learn to behave better. Or I get bored then kick your ass out.

But do not be so selfish with your bitch-slapping. People need more of it I say!!

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Interesting...
That is sad. So much for my idealistic vision of the enlightened subspecies of human on the other side of the pond!
Really interesting post. I had a similar, yet smaller, issue with another Voxer on another Vox blog of mine. A case of misreading/misinterpretation turn into one-sided flame war (she attacked me. I don't give a shit about a stranger's opinion).

To that, I refer to Boing Boing's moderation policy specifically this:

Q. I can't believe that Boing Boing, of all places, would be using censorship. What happened to freedom of speech?

A. Boing Boing is steadfast in its support of your freedom of speech. We believe that you, O Reader, should be able to have (or refuse to have) anything you want on your own website, as long as it doesn't deprive others of their rights. Yay, freedom of speech!

By that same token, freedom of speech also means that the people who write and edit Boing Boing have the right to have (or refuse to have) anything they want on their own website. If one of the things they don't want is a comment that you have posted, they aren't depriving you of your freedom of speech. You're free to put that comment up on your own webpage.


Yup. That's what most people do.
i will say in my defense that koa made the first comment on my blog at vox and it wasn't very informative or amusing,on my blog i do see it as more of a free for all in the backyard, as long as you don't throw the cat onto the bbq,you won't get blocked.or deleted

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